Older people challenging isolation and loneliness in our community
The name of our micro-podcast series under lockdown is Radio Together, and our guiding principle is digital participation.
We do it at St Mary’s Secret Garden (very informally) on Wednesday afternoons, online (sporadically) on Friday afternoons, and at other places (occasionally).
Oldies own the entire podcast process. We don’t use expensive equipment. We don’t involve professionals. Our locations are always acoustically-challenging. The budget is zero. It’s been like that since 2011.
And there is always a backlog waiting to be edited and published.
A Secret Garden jam — where the music does the talking — by the 50+ live music group — 90 minutes of music distilled to 12.
Heard on the track — Gifty (voice, percussion), Grafton (voice) and Sue (voice, guitar), assisted by Emmanuel and Walter.
Recorded on a bright day – 9 September 2020 – in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
Fay tells us about lockdown with her garden and Vox Holloway community choir.
Recorded on a sunny day – 5 August 2020 – in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
New podcaster Emmanuel introduces himself.
Paula is worried about the isolating effects of lockdown and unemployment.
Recorded on a sunny, but noisy, day – 5 August 2020 – in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
Sue (voice, guitar) and Gifty (voice, calabash) improvise a song from Gifty’s repertoire. Also heard: Ken (guitar) and Stephen (guitar).
Then Gifty tells us why she wrote the song.
We are getting closer to the live music project concept, based on our 2012-2013 ‘Music Stories’ workshops — music as a catalyst for personal and shared memories.
Recorded 29 July 2020 in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
Paula contrasts her memories of stable working life with the prospects of a younger generation trying to get started.
Recorded on a noisy day – 29 July 2020 – in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
John arrives on a Honda Hornet 600 F3 CBR, and tells us how coronavirus has curtailed his life on the road.
Followed by three minutes of very distanced music snatched from our 50+ band (who were in the garden all afternoon).
Recorded on a sunny day – 22 July 2020 – in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
Ruth takes us back to the 1980s.
Recorded 3 July 2020 in an online meeting space.
A brief episode from Brian’s life in London, 1954.
Recorded on a rainy day – 1 July 2020 – in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
A brief summary of Andreas’ experiences of radio, phone and TV services in the UK since 1957.
Recorded on a rainy day – 1 July 2020 – in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
Joggers are still a threat to vulnerable people in the street.
Recorded 24 June 2020 in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
Ruth looks back on her journey from apartheid South Africa.
Recorded 24 June 2020 in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
The killing of George Floyd in Minnesota has shocked the world over. Once again a black person is brutalised by the police in America. This racist attitude of police happens in the UK as well – by the people who are meant to be there to protect us as citizens.
The anti-racist protests of young people today reminded me of the Soweto riots in South Africa in 1976, when the young people rioted against the apartheid regime for its brutal inhumane racist policies inflicted on the black population.
Lockdown through COVID-19 has given us the time to reflect. I was born and lived under the apartheid government of South Africa until I was 21. They were white supremacists that governed and segregated the population according to their colour. 50 million black people – the indigenous population – lived in shanty towns. 4 million coloureds were further segregated by ethnicity. My Indian friend at school had to be registered and accounted for annually. Indians were regarded as the merchant class, so their wealth was monitored by the government. The white and non-white population lived on opposite sides of the railway line to segregate us under the Group Areas Act. We travelled at the back of the bus, or on second and third class coaches of the trains.
I am the fifth generation of my family, born out of the slave trading that came from the east through the Dutch East India Company. My ancestry is African, Indonesian, Dutch and German
Apartheid was dehumanising and brutal. My father and grandfather’s generation suffered the most. They went out to work where they were further humiliated on a daily basis. I was lucky to come from a very supportive family.
I hated the country I came from. I was politicised at an early age thankfully by the teachers at my school. I saw that there were better places to live in, outside of South Africa. We had political activists murdered like Steve Biko, or imprisoned like Nelson Mandela and Walter Sisulu. We had the Sharpeville and Langa riots. Our next door neighbour was imprisoned on Robben Island for being politically active.
We wanted a better society to live in. I couldn’t see myself living under apartheid for the rest of my life. So the energy and sense of adventure that comes with youth, I planned to work for my flight and pocket money after getting my school education to leave the country for London.
My parents could not have afforded to send me abroad. At that time Barclays Bank started employing young coloured girls to improve their bad reputation on race relations in South Africa. So I worked there for 18 months.
I came to London and found freedom of choice. I fell in love with the city. In the UK, sport organisations were boycotting playing in South Africa.
People in the UK were persuaded to boycott wine and the Outspan oranges from South Africa. There was political and economic upheaval, and over time the racist government couldn’t afford apartheid any more, so they had to engage with the jailed political leaders.
When Nelson Mandela was released in 1990, I was living in London then. I sat at the edge of my bed and wept. I could now be proud of the place of my birth.
“History was never white. White is a metaphor for power” – James Baldwin, from the documentary film I am not your Negro.
Gifty’s reaction to the death of George Floyd.
Recorded 17 June 2020 in St Mary’s Secret Garden, Hackney.
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Coronavirus has closed Mama Gifty Kitchen near Liverpool St – but Gifty Naa Dk is confident that she will be back in business soon.
Recorded 4 June 2020 in Shoreditch. Languages: English and Ga.
First of a new street podcast series.
Paula Yassine tells us how St Marys Secret Garden has survived lockdown – and outlines a plan for carrying on as a community garden for the most vulnerable and isolated people.
Edited extracts from a much longer online conversation, recorded 15 May 2020.
The voices belong to: Anne-Marie, Katy, Paula, Rick and Ruth.
Sound quality is dreadful. That was inevitable because online meeting platforms always compress audio data as much as they can. The whooshy noises are caused mainly by laptop microphones picking up sound from the speakers. Wearing a headset usually fixes that problem — if the speakers are in your ears, the microphone won’t hear them.
Most of St Mary’s Secret Garden work is face-to-face interactions with individuals and the community. And obviously with the lockdown and the risk of COVID-19, for the majority of our beneficiaries and our volunteers as well, means we haven’t been able to do face-to-face horticultural activities. So unfortunately we are closed at the moment.
Immediately we looked at ways of how we could produce some kind of service so we have started online deliveries, so you can order and that is specifically for people who are vulnerable and isolated. So if anyone can’t get out of the house, or can’t get to the nursery, they can still call us. We still got vegetables, herbs — and we can sneak in some flowers for you and we can deliver. We’re taking online payments for that — for the equipment and resources.
We are also delivering to some of our beneficiaries — some of our people with learning disabilities are in shared housing — they have got gardens — they’ve got care workers with them — so we’ve been delivering gardening packs to them — with plants so they can continue to grow.
And we are also continuing to be in conversation with all our beneficiaries and all our volunteers — mainly, for the people with learning disabilities — through the old dog and bone — through the phone, because most of them are not ICT literate — they haven’t got access to ICT — they don’t even have mobile phones,m let alone smartphones. These are a group of people we are more particularly worried about. They are already isolated and lonely — now even more so at the moment, because they are isolated and distancing.
People we used to work with in partnership — Mildmay — Tavistock — NHS Foundation Trust — with Social Action for Health — it all came to a crashing halt. We are looking at ways of opening up. We are hoping — I can’t announce it yet — because we are doing the risk assessments, and all that — hopefully an opening time next Friday. But we are doing the deliveries — so if you need a delivery and you can’t get out, drop us an email or give us a phone call.
Is there going to be a new normal? Yes, obviously there will be, Things will change. Things will get better. As to when — how long is a piece of string? The virus seems to be particularly contagious — a big threat to us human beings. But we have the benefit that the garden is mainly outside work — so when we do go back to normal, we will be outside most of the time. The portacabin that we are in is too small to get many people in, so we might have to reduce sizes. But something will happen.
I’m exploring the idea — I would be interested to get your feedback on this — Sanctuary Garden. As I said, I’m isolating. I shouldn’t go outside. Earlier this week, I did pop out. I went to Hackney Downs, late one evening, with my husband. I just needed to get out. And this was before the slight lockdown was lifting — and it was horrific for someone who has been shut inside for about ten weeks. There were groups of youth playing football. More than — obviously — a family unit. Ghetto blasters there, all hanging out — people cycling, jogging, sitting on the ground — And when you know you are vulnerable to this, it was quite freaky.
So I’m wondering whether the garden has a place for — when vulnerable people are allowed to come out of lockdown — a place where we can start to get back to being outside and not being afraid to be outside. So — timed entrance, nice and quiet and peaceful — time to enjoy nature — sniff the roses — that’s what I’m exploring with the health and wellbeing network at the moment — finding some way forward on that in the weeks to come. So — slight change, but certainly a very therapeutic — and certainly a big urge towards improving mental well-being because — personally, I know that my wellbeing has been knocked, and I’m a fairly grounded person. So we are going to need help when we come out of this. We’ve got to start putting in plans for that. So it will be a different kind of normal — and I’m hoping — a more caring and supportive one. And that’s one thing that can come out of this — a positive thing – it has brought communities together.
This is Ruth — I’m interested in volunteering, and if you need any volunteers during this time. I’m interested to come round, introduce myself — and then you can see whether I’m capable of helping you out in any way. Does that suit you?
We are always accepting volunteers. Obviously, we had to stop them for a while. We’ve started to get a few in, that aren’t vulnerable, that still can help out. At the moment it’s probably quite a nice time to join us, because you can — weed all your life — you can plant things and stuff like that — because all our beneficiaries who used to do that — can’t do that. They are not allowed out.
So there is, on our website, a volunteer page — there’s a volunteer form. If you send that back to us, we will progress from there.
I’ve got volunteers that are quite able. I’ve got volunteers that are quite old. I think our oldest volunteer is Shirley and I think she’s just over 90, actually, but she’s fantastic.She’s a gardener — gardener all her life — and she;s just had two knee replacements as well And there’s nothing she doesn’t know about gardening but unfortunately she’s in lockdown with her daughter.
As for the Mildmay clients — you did ask specifically about them — bad things happened to them before the lockdown, We can go back to the joys of austerity measures. These people were HIV-positive with cognitive impairment. Mildmay Mission Hospital Is the one centre that is specifically a charity that works with people with HIV-positive cognitive impairment.
Because of early interventions now, and better drug treatment, not many people were progressing so far with their HIV that this disorder started — so the treatment comes earlier — you don’t get the neurocognitive issues so much.
So they weren’t getting as many referrals because of the success of the treatment — which is good. But it also meant, with austerity, that the clients came from all over London — different boroughs.
Because everyone was looking at these neighborhood models and the CCGs and the localising services, a lot of health authorities were no longer willing to pay: 1 – transport fares to get some of these quite disabled people there, and 2 – to pay for out-of-borough services.
Twenty years I’ve known these people — every week — and I’ve had such a good time in the garden with them — and I’ve got so much benefit from it. And also — the rehab and the work that Mildmay did with them on the scheme — ICT — getting them to use computers — practically went within two weeks. They were no longer going to Mildmay and therefore no longer were coming to St. Mary’s.
People I had known for twenty years — gone like that. It happened so quickly — a couple of weeks before lockdown really. Towards the end, there was only like — to say there was like 17 to 20 of them per week — and they were, by this time — they created a social network. They were their social network. They were the only people they met. They were their friends.
That was very obvious, for anyone who used to go to the garden occasionally, like me. The people doing the gardening were obviously people with quite serious difficulties in their lives And they all seemed very happy — and they all seemed not just to enjoy the gardening they seemed to be good at it as well. I thought the atmosphere there was absolutely wonderful. And now you’re saying that is not going to be part of the new normality. That is a shame.
Suddenly they disappeared, and in the end there was just one person coming in. As I said — they were each other’s friends — they were each other’s peer group — they were each other’s support network. They were completely decimated — I mean decimated — within a month. Mildmay were closing. They had run out of money. There had no one in the hospital. And that was during the start of the lockdown, and the huge rush on the NHS.
Some of our best podcasts have been impromptu sessions in the Garden. The most liked seems to be Before and After the Carnival — it’s at the top of the Blasts from the Past list.
17 June update: we have revived our Secret Garden podcast (first published episode is Gifty’s police story).